"It must never be unpatriotic to support your country against your government. It must always be unpatriotic to support your government against your country."
– Stephen T. Byington
"It must never be unpatriotic to support your country against your government. It must always be unpatriotic to support your government against your country."
"Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free. "
"Government cannot make man richer, but it can make him poorer."
"The care of every man's soul belongs to himself. But what if he neglect the care of it? Well what if he neglect the care of his health or his estate, which would more nearly relate to the state. Will the magistrate make a law that he not be poor or sick? Laws provide against injury from others; but not from ourselves. God himself will not save men against their wills."
– Thomas Jefferson
Billy P. Wrote:"I remember Ron Paul just two years ago in the Republican primaries debate
being asked why he was even a Republican since he disagreed with their views
so much, and he responded that he didn't realize that being a fiscally
minded conservative who cared about the constitution had stopped being
something Republicans can identify with. This is the same party that pushed
through an unconstitutional war, were advocating wiretapping journalists and
other citizens, started the war on drugs, want to bring religion into state
schools and offices, wanted to restrict the liberties of homosexuals, and do
all of this and have the AUDACITY to claim they care about our
Constitution.
The Tea Party consists of people who honestly believe Obama is a Muslim and
from Kenya, think socialism and fascism are the same thing, probably
couldn't spell Constitution much less realize it contradicts half of what
they espouse, and are led by one of the most dishonest politicians of all
time who has been consistently exposed as both embarrassingly uninformed and
willing to lie and manipulate anything and anyone to garner support from
morons.
I was aghast when the Libertarian Party website linked to the Tea Party.
Look, if you're against excessive government spending, believe in people's
liberties above any political agenda, and have sane and reasoned criticisms
of Obama and the Dems, then there already is a party for you - the
Libertarian Party."
"First, Let me apologize for being a little harsh and generalizing. I was
cranky after work, and politics bring out the worst in people. Obviously,
there are intelligent and nice people who got involved in the Tea Party
because of a concern over excessive government spending. But everything
I've seen from the movement suggest it's really about something far
different. I will explain where I am getting my information at some point
in the future. And the leader, who I realized is not the leader but a
figure who seems to be well-liked within the party, and also their speaker
at their convention, was Sarah Palin. I will explain some of my sources of
information later.
But let me ask you this simple question - isn't it a bit coincidental that
this Tea Party started a few months into the new administration? We had 8
years of an administration that ran an surplus into a deficit, spent, spent,
spent on war and special interests, and continually expanded the power of
the executive branch.
Where was the Tea Party then? Why did they decide big government was a bad
thing so soon after a new administration starts, and decide that the blame
should be shifted to a president who had been in office for a few months,
and not 8 years?"
Keep in mind there isn't one "tea party". If you join teapartynation.com or resistnet.com, they are outright hostile and hateful to anything that smacks of liberty and the free market. I joined myself and have never experienced such a group of ignorant and hateful people. Don't mention that Obama "and Bush" are responsible for the mess we're in now, they'll call you a Bush bashing troll. Don't speak of natural rights either, they don't know about natural rights or think it's only for gays or "faggots". Don't mention anything about cutting domestic and defense spending, only certain types of domestic spending may be cut. When I say don't mention it, I mean that they will ban you for speaking of any of these ideas. They will attack you personally, as well for any reason, they can dream up. If you let them know you live near DC, they will accuse you of being some kind of gov't bureaucrat who is against them. Another thing, don't
mention you're a libertarian and you don't support the "Great" Scott Brown. Also, close your ears to the nasty things and worse such as k----- Muslims, foreigners or immigrants. Yes, that's what I mean!! Someone said k---- them and didn't get banned. After their "volunteer" moderators ban you for your comments, there is no recourse. The leaders of the group won't respond to any complaints about any of this. They just want to be a bunch of hateful and ignorant people. Grassfire is the parent group of resistnet, which I used to think was a "legitimate" thoughtful group, not anymore.
Now, on the other hand, take teapartypatriots.org, (.com is a different group or site). Post or say anything you want within reason on the patriot's site and they won't have any problem with it. Say you're a libertarian, no worries.
So, obviously it's a mixed bag some are fraudulent, the patriots are okay. Take it for what it's worth, whatever that is supposed to mean?
"Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult."